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I really enjoy following this guy. He discusses fine dress, suits, etiquette and so forth.

What do you think about his take here? Do you believe people will ever go back to finer dressing in public?

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How do I know I've authentically recovered from Borderline Personality Disorder? How can you know if I've authentically recovered from it? (Originally aired Aug. 24, 2018)

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What people say…

We as people say lots of things. What we say either reflects what is true, or does not reflect what is true, but what we say does not determine what is true.

What is true or not is true or not regardless of what we say.

Remember that. View the things people say - even what you might say - through the appropriate lens. It can’t determine what is true, it can only accurately reflect what is true (or not).

I’ve got my hands full this weekend with personal obligations. I hope you all are doing well. Please let us know if you’re not, so we can encourage you and help you get yourself through it.

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Good Songs Saturday- Stir it Up

Well I’ve been to Jamaica twice this month so it’s only appropriate.

I’ve never heard anyone pronounce stir like he does!

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If I could turn back the clock one week and be standing right there with Buddy Melton again shaking his hand, I’d tell him how much I love this song and pepper him with questions about how much it means to him.

I’ll tell you what, Bluegrass or ‘Mountain Music’ is a unique, unspoiled genre where even its best musicians are still humble and walk around the audience with little fanfare in between sets. You can walk right up to them and talk to them. They eat at the same tables you go to eat. It’s not like other music genres where the musicians are set apart from their fans. (Can you imagine just walking up to Taylor Swift after one of her shows because she’s just mingling around the same venue as you looking for a pop machine? Never in a million years.)

As a reminder, Buddy Melton’s granddaddy originally wrote this song. Buddy discovered the lyrics while going through his things years after he had died and then completed the song by putting it to music and recording it. I had ...

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S5 Ep 24 Forgiveness Outline
FORGIVENESS

“You need to just let it go and move on.”

     Have you ever heard somebody say that before?

     When I was beginning my own authentic recovery from Borderline Personality Disorder - something I used to live with unknowingly, and something that I authentically rid myself of completely - it used to drive me nuts when I would try expressing some of the tremendous injustices committed against me in my life, and people would say this to me: “Forget about it. Let it go.”

     Most people unhelpfully talk about this as “forgiveness”.

     I wish I could say that they improperly or even falsely talk about this as forgiveness, but unfortunately, for anybody hoping for real insight on this subject, it’s not that simple.

     Many people use the word “forgiveness” when what they really mean (unknowingly) is Acceptance. This is especially true in many religious contexts.

     It is not unusual for many of the words we use in everyday speech to carry several distinct connotations, each connotation unrelated to the other. Take for example the word ‘light’. What determines the meaning of this word? It is context.

     If I ask to help you carry your groceries and you tell me, “No thanks, these bags are light”, I understand immediately that you are not suggesting that they are emitting rays of illumination.

     Likewise, if I say that the picture of my television screen isn’t ‘light’ enough for some movie I’m watching, you immediately understand that I’m not talking about its weight, but rather how bright the picture is.

     In most cases with words that carry multiple connotations, the context makes things clear. However, every once in a while, particularly with anything related to emotional health, great misunderstandings and confusion occur when a really important word carries multiple connotations, and worse yet, when the various connotations are subtle in their differences.

     The reason for this is that people are already living with misunderstandings, or complete lack of understanding, and when you add on top of that words with multiple connotations, it is a recipe for disaster. It prevents people from seeing and understanding things clearly, and therefore advancing. It creates confusion and leads people to do things in ways that they believe are right, but that are not right.

     The average person means two distinct things when they speak of ‘forgiveness’:

     1. Letting go of resentment

     2. Allowing another person back into your good graces, that is to say, to consider a debt paid, or that you have received compensation.

     These two meanings: Letting go of resentment, and viewing yourself as compensated, are two entirely distinct meanings that do not in any way involve the same thing.

     Think about it real hard for a second: Does me simply not feeling resentment toward a person inevitably mean also allowing them into my life? Not at all. Does considering a debt paid inevitably involve also not resenting a person? Not at all.

     I can hope well for a person and not resent them while at the same time seeing that they should not be in my life.

     You do this all the time with puppies and stray kitty cats. Your kids beg you to adopt them and take them home, and you say, “Children, no. We just can’t take on the added responsibilities at this time.” Right?

     Because you don’t want to take the dog or cat into your life, is this proof that you resent the dog or cat? Absolutely not.

     Furthermore, the lady at the bank may resent me even after I pay off my car loan. My having paid off my debt does not also inevitably involve her feelings about me changing.

     At the beginning of this discussion I said that people unhelpfully apply both of these distinct meanings that we’ve discussed to the word “forgiveness” and that I can’t say they are doing this improperly, or falsely. This is because technically, both of these meanings are in fact legitimate meanings for the word “forgiveness”.

     However, just because both meanings, or connotations, are technically legitimate uses of the word forgiveness does not mean that it is in your, or anybody else’s best interests to continue using the word “forgiveness” in both ways. All this does is contribute to, and enforce, confusion and distorted understanding about life.

     What did we say the two completely-distinct, unrelated meanings, or connotations of the word Forgiveness are?

  1. Letting go of resentment
  2. Allowing another person back into your good graces, that is to say, to consider a debt paid.

     Letting go of resentment: Who is that one for? Is that something we do primarily for another person, or is that something we do primarily for ourselves?

     It’s something we primarily do for ourselves. It’s a favor we do for ourselves so as to not lose peace, or to not continue losing peace.

     What does letting go of resentment involve? It involves our thoughts and feelings - in that order.

     Why in that order? It has to occur in that order because nobody has a Resentment Switch inside of themselves that they can just flip up or down to turn resentment on and off. Nobody has direct control over his or her feelings. Choosing what we feel isn’t something human beings are able to do, since feelings are something we experience as human beings, not something we do. (This is why expressions such as “don’t be mad…” are so stupid and destructive.)

     But every feeling we experience is preceded by thoughts - our feelings are born directly from our thoughts - and we do have full control over not only what we continue thinking about, but also how we continue thinking about a thing.

     So letting go of resentment involves recognizing what thoughts we live with that are giving birth to resentment, and then choosing:

  1. To stop allowing ourselves to think certain things altogether
  2. To think about some other things more and other things less
  3. To think about the same things, but to choose to think about them in a different way.

     Honestly, I can’t stress this enough: Nothing has become more practically useful or powerful in my life than the realization that the solution to almost every problem is how I myself am choosing to think about it.

     When I’m having a “bad day”, the first thing I do is look at what my thoughts are doing to understand why. If I see that my mind is hanging onto a bunch of negative thoughts and that’s why I am interpreting my day in such a negative way, I simply choose different things to think about, or I think about the same things but in a different way, and my day gets better.

     If everybody around me seems to be annoying and troublesome on a certain day, I stop and take a look at my thoughts. Then I usually realize that it is not that the people around me are being more troublesome or annoying than usual, but that instead it is my own negative thinking that is making it seem that way, which in turn is making me feel negatively. So I choose to think about different things, or to think about the same things in a different way, and suddenly people don’t seem so annoying anymore.

     I have two new puppies. Puppies chew up and destroy everything. They get into places they aren’t supposed to be, they get ahold of things they’re not supposed to have. When I realize I am beginning to get frustrated at the destruction they cause, the first thing I do is check the sorts of thoughts I have been allowing to play in the background of my mind. I then choose to think about things differently. Suddenly the destruction my pups create isn’t frustrating anymore, instead it becomes comical, endearing and precious.

     If this thought hasn’t occurred to you, it should: How did I cure myself of Borderline Personality Disorder? If you strip what I did down the bare bones, what is it that I did that took me from somebody completely enslaved to that emotional disorder to somebody completely free of it? In the simplest terms possible, how did I do it?

     I identified thoughts that were incorrect, and I corrected them. In other words, I began thinking differently.

     That’s all there was to it, honestly. Granted, we’re talking about something that is much easier to say than do, but nevertheless, that is the nature of the cure to all emotional disorders, including Borderline Personality Disorder: Just thinking different.

     In fact, I’d bet you a nickel that simply thinking different is the primary factor between a baseball team playing poorly one year and going to the World Series the very next year. Just look at the Cincinnati Reds right now. You can’t get tickets to their games. Why not? I didn’t have any trouble getting tickets last year.

     The reason is this: They thought different going into this season. Then they started playing well. When they started playing well, they started believing in themselves. Because they started believing in themselves and playing well, they’ve continued believing in themselves and playing well. Their thinkingmore optimistically actually makes them behave more optimistically and to desire playing harder.

     And what about nobody wanting to attend games last year? Well, all of those people’s thinking has changed, too, hasn’t it. Suddenly they all want to be at the games. They want to be able to say they were there. They anticipate seeing something wonderful happen. Because the team is thinking different, the thousands or even millions of fans are thinking different. Because the team and the fans are thinking different, all of baseball is thinking about them differently. 

     Now I do have to stress that this type of thinking differently is not the type of thinking differently that is going to cure anybody of an emotional disorder. No, you can’t just think optimistically and cure yourself of fundamentally false and unhealthy thinking. To do that, one has to identify what they have been educated incorrectly about and correct those completely false understandings of things.

     One can’t cure fundamentally flawed notions merely by thinking more optimistically. For example, if I live with the terribly-destructive belief that human value depends on what other people think of us, my choosing to think more optimistically, while never rooting out that false belief and changing it, is not going to fix that false belief, nor is it going to make the natural destructive consequences of living with that false belief magically go away. No, I have to identify false thinking within myself and correct that thinking - replace it with thinking that is better reflective of truth.

     Still, at the end of the day, to say it as simply as possible, it comes down to thinking differently; thinking differently because you see how your previous thinking was flawed, so you adopt a better understanding, and you move on thinking in new, more accurate, healthier ways.

     How about ‘Forgiveness’ in the sense of allowing another person back into our good graces, or considering a debt that they owe us as paid? Is that something we do for others, or is it something we do for ourselves?

     Allowing another person back into our good graces is something we primarily do, not for ourselves, but for the other person. It’s something we extend to them.

     The reason I talk about it as considering a debt paid is because that is what it really involves.

     Relationships are contracts. Have you ever thought about it that way? Any type of relationship you get into is a contract that you and another person are agreeing to, and entering into.

     Just last week I was in a park in the big city. There was a guy sitting on a park bench. The moment I decided to sit down and start a conversation with that feller, I was offering to enter into an agreement with him. The moment he chose to remain seated and engage with me in the conversation, he accepted entering into that agreement himself.

     What were the unspoken obligations and responsibilities that we were both agreeing to at that point? To share of ourselves, to remain friendly and respectful. If either one of us had failed in our small obligations and responsibilities in that scenario, there would have been consequences. A best-case scenario might have been one of us excusing ourselves and walking away. A worst-case scenario might have been a fist fight.

     But what about afterwards?

     See, the failure to live up to the obligations and responsibilities of that very simple relationship would have created a vacuum, or negative space. One of us would forever be walking around afterwards indebted to the other unless the offender - whether that’s him or me - put things right.

     Failing in an obligation or a responsibility creates a vacuum, or a negative space. What the person responsible for a thing was supposed to provide there, they never provided. Therefore it is left vacant. That vacuum or negative space continues to exist until it gets filled. How does it get filled? By the offender paying their debt, making up for their failure, in the form of consequences and conditions, which replaces, or fills in for, the responsibility they originally failed to live up to.

     Remember that guy on the park bench I was just telling you about? Fortunately we both lived up to the contract, or agreement, that we entered into with each other that day. We’ve since entered into additional contracts. He came to my house the very next day to see my last remaining puppy from my recent litter of puppies, and he has agreed to adopt her. Drove almost two hours south that morning to my house. His name is Dave. He has a 5-year-old daughter and they’re all excited about welcoming a new dog into their lives. But more than that, he and I have a lot in common and we’re starting to become friends. We’re making plans to get together for a barbecue soon.

     Anybody we allow into our lives, and that chooses to be in our lives themselves, as well as allow us into their lives in return, accepts certain unspoken obligations and responsibilities.

     Just like when I enter into a relationship with a bank, this gives birth to obligations and responsibilities that I am agreeing to take on. If I fail to live up to any of my obligations or responsibilities, that creates a vacuum, or a negative space, doesn’t it.

     For example, if I take out a loan, and one month I miss the payment on that loan, the payment that was supposed to be made was never made. Therefore there is a big empty space, negative space, or vacuum there. Until I fill in that empty space and turn it from a negative into a positive, things can’t be right between me and the bank.

     This creates a situation where the offender is now indebted to us. They owe us the debt of taking this situation that is out of harmony and balance, and putting things right so that everything comes back into balance. This is why we refer to situations like this as “putting things right”.

     As we already illustrated in the example of the puppies, I can let go of my resentment for somebody who has wronged me in a serious way while at the same time not embracing them back into my good graces. In other words, I may be able to let go of any feelings of resentment and not hate that person or hold any grudges - but at the same time I may recognize that they have not met certain conditions for me to healthfully be able to have interactions with them, and therefore I keep them out of my life.

     In a religious sense, half of the time that the Bible uses the term ‘forgiveness’, it is in reality talking about Acceptance, as in letting go of resentment - but NOT ‘forgiveness’ in the sense of letting people off the hook for things they are neither sensitive or remorseful about.

     True forgiveness, in the strict sense, is something for others - it is not something for ourselves. It is us telling others that they are free of any requirements whatsoever to make compensation to us for anything.

     Acceptance on the other hand is letting go of resentment. We look at a great injustice we have suffered, and we simply accept that things happened the way they happened, and they can never be undone. We let go of any hate or frustration we might be holding onto, and we move on in our lives. It is this aspect of emotional health that a majority of people mistakenly think of as ‘forgiveness’. This is not forgiveness. It is Acceptance. Acceptance is something we do for OUR OWN SELVES. It is not something we extend to others.

     For all of you hearing this, I hope you will spend a lot of time chewing over what I have just shared. The error in thinking around forgiveness - even among very, very smart and Godly people - comes down to a common misunderstanding of the way words can carry multiple, completely unrelated connotations. Most of the time this doesn’t create confusion. In the case of emotional health, where many things hinge on a very precise understanding of very subtle concepts, it creates great confusion.

     So although it is not technically incorrect to refer to letting go of resentment as ‘forgiveness’, I have completely sworn off using the word ‘forgiveness’ in such a way because as you can see, using it with that connotation only leads to great, unecessary  confusion.

     In what type of circumstances can you not healthily forgive another person - that is to say, allow them back into your good graces, or consider their debt paid - until the offender has suffered consequences, and the offender has met specific conditions?

  1. Anytime there is abuse.
  2. Anytime somebody has failed to look at you, or look at those you are responsible for, as a person and treat you, or them, as a person. (Gives birth to #1.)
  3. Anytime somebody flagrantly ignores or disregards any of the laws of emotional health.
  4. Anytime somebody who is committed to God and knows better has flagrantly broken one of God’s laws without remorse.
  5. Anytime somebody fails to live up to a solemn vow, commitment, or responsibility.

     Why do I say that it is not healthy to ‘Forgive’ a person in the sense of letting them back into your good graces, or viewing them as owing you no compensation, in these sorts of circumstances until they have suffered consequences and also have met conditions?

     Because to extend ‘forgiveness’ in these circumstances is to Enable emotional unhealth in the world.

     In addition to The Law of Individual Inherent Rights Responsibility & Authority that we always talk about, there is another Law of Emotional Health that is every bit as important to know about and live harmoniously with. I call it The Law of Enabling, which has always existed and which we have described and talked about in the past, I’ve just never given it a name until now.

     It says that you are always supporting (or enabling) something. But you can only be healthy yourself as long as you are not supporting (enabling, participating in, contributing to) any aspect of emotional unhealth in life.

     To give you an example, if my brother were to come to me and say that he wants to rob a bank tomorrow, anything I do to contribute to his ability to rob the bank is me participating in the act of the bank robbery, even if it is something as small as my wishing him well in his endeavor.

     I cannot wish him well in an endeavor that is harmful to himself and to the world, and that can only lead to pain, and at the same time consider myself a non-contributor to his pain and any resulting harm. Therefore, the only other option available to me in this scenario is to *only* support, or enable, things that contribute to his *inability* to carry out the bank robbery.

     Do you see that I am still supporting him, I’m simply supporting him in a way that is good for him rather than in a way that is bad for him.

     Remember that staying out of people’s business (recognizing that only they have the right to choose how to live their own lives) is not the same as *assisting* them to live their lives however they want, such as offering emotional support to allow them to continue in ways that are inherently destructive.

     You must be very careful and discerning that your acceptance of unhealthy people’s right to live however they want does not cross the forbidden boundary where you are not only accepting of their right to make choices, but actually *contributing* to their unhealthy choices, to their unhealthy thinking, to their distorted thinking, to their outright false thinking, and so forth.

     Once you become a contributor, or participant in it, you then share in the emotional unhealth and the negative effects that naturally accompany it. Why? Because you are contributing to somebody else’s ultimate harm and unhappiness. Your doing that is evidence of your own unhealthy thinking and attitudes allowing you to think and act in such a way, otherwise you wouldn’t be involved in it. Unhealthy thinking and unhealthy attitudes *only* lead to disorder and unhappiness, they cannot lead to emotional health and peace.

     The Law of Enabling: Remember, we are always supporting others. We are always supporting something. We are never *not* supporting something. The teeter-totter, the trick, is to only support the RIGHT thing - the HEALTHY things - and to never be a participant, or contributor, in unhealthy things.

     I wish all people well in life. I do not wish them well in decisions and choices and behaviors that I know to be inherently to their harm. Instead, I hope they will be allowed to suffer the full negative consequences of those things, which has the potential to benefit them ultimately and help them self correct. This is exactly the course my own life took and it is what allows me to be here talking about these things today.

 

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Happiness is a Natural State
Show outline for The Last Symptom podcast S5 Ep 15

Happiness is not something you have to create. Rather, it’s something that is always trying to occur naturally. But for unhealthy people it is being blocked.

 

Like Empathy. It’s not something you do. It’s something you experience naturally. If you’re not experiencing it, the only reason this can be is that there is an obstruction.

 

Water hose. Water pipes. Water faucet. WiFi connection.

 

Do you know how your water faucet works? When you turn the knob, does the faucet cause the water to flow? No! The water faucet does not ‘cause’ water to flow. The water is already trying to flow on its own.

 

What the water faucet in your house does is actually stop it from flowing.

 

When you turn the handle on your sink, what you are literally doing is putting an end to obstructing the flow of water that is already trying to occur naturally.

 

This is the truth for happiness, contentment, empathy, love, and all of these good qualities and states. It’s not a matter of making them happen - that is an unhelpful perspective to have about what is actually occurring. It is more helpful to think of them like the water that wants to come out of your faucet - they are trying to flow, but something you are doing is obstructing them from flowing.

 

Recovery involves learning about the obstructions preventing you from experiencing these things and then clearing out any obstructions from those pipes.

 

NEW TOPIC

 

Question: Why do people become more bitter as they get older? Did they make bad choices or does life just get harder?

 

Last Symptom Answer: A lot of disillusionment happens over the years, a lot of necessary readjustments in perspective between what you assume about life and the reality. Then acceptance sets in, and with that, contentment starts to return.

 

NEW TOPIC

 

John Muir, an 'uneducated' man

 

From Wikipedia:

 

Pursuit of his love of science, especially geology, often occupied his free time. Muir soon became convinced that glaciers had sculpted many of the features of the Yosemite Valley and surrounding area.

 

This notion was in strong contradiction to the accepted contemporary theory, promulgated by Josiah Whitney (head of the California Geological Survey), which attributed the formation of the valley to a catastrophic earthquake.

 

As Muir's ideas spread, Whitney tried to discredit Muir by branding him as an amateur. But Louis Agassiz, the premier geologist of the day, saw merit in Muir's ideas and lauded him as "the first man I have ever found who has any adequate conception of glacial action".[35] In 1871, Muir discovered an active alpine glacier below Merced Peak, which helped his theories gain acceptance.

 

NEW TOPIC

 

The only time dad asked what I was thinking, doing, singing, was to find fault with it - to get me into trouble, to shame me, to find something wrong with it. (The time on the porch I was singing and he ‘caught’ me, and asked what I was singing. I couldn’t bring myself to tell him, because I didn’t know how he had in mind to use it against me or to belittle me.)

 

NEW TOPIC

 

Question: So the topic I was thinking of for you to talk about was Hoarding. I could be wrong, but I have seen it with a few people with personality disorders of some sort.

Last Symptom Answer: Any and all compulsive behaviors have the same underlying causes. If not hoarding, it might be sex addiction, any addiction, alcoholism, OCD, cutting, so forth. Like plugging the hole in a dam that has built up too much water pressure behind it: The pressure is still there, the water will simply search out other weak spots from which to escape.

 

All compulsive behaviors are a sign that somebody is dealing with intense, unconscious, unrecognized inner 'pressure', or stress factors. The compulsive behavior is water that has broken forth from a weak spot in the 'dam', so to speak.  

Compulsive behaviors are merely an unconscious or subconscious coping mechanism for some underlying emotional discomfort. Dying hair a different color every month, getting a new pet all the time, compulsive buying/spending, constantly moving, settling down but then getting restless, are all signs of this. Inner peace is not there. Something deep down is upsetting them. That 'something else' can always ultimately be traced back to the person living with an inappropriate understanding, or attitude, about the nature of worth. 

 

NEW TOPIC

 

Facts plus their implications. Spending time drawing out implications rather than simply taking a thing at face value and moving on.

 

Example: You unconsciously view your feelings as no different than having taken an action. Furthermore, you believe feelings can be categorized as being good or bad, right or wrong.

 

You might have the realization that these things are a reality about yourself that you live with, but now you have to spend a long time thinking about the broader implications of what this means. What effects has this had on every aspect of your life? How have these underlying beliefs improperly informed other perspectives you live with, and what have been the unhealthy results?

 

Example: You don’t view human value as an inherent part of being a person.

 

Example: Fear of abandonment is your child view of the world, but you’re no longer a child or dependent on others.

 

Example: Happiness is a natural state.

 

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OUTLINE: The Last Symptom podcast S5 Ep 2
Until I Found You

You may have already seen or listened to this episode of The Last Symptom podcast (S5 Ep 2), but I wanted to share the outline with you that I worked from. Some of you mind find value in it. 

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All right, which one of you have been talking about me? (Spike in downloads yesterday.)

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      Have you noticed that unhealthy families are governed by unwritten rules that discourage and punish people who show any individuality? Why? (From our Last Symptom group on Locals.)

     Unhealthy people don’t view other people as people - that is to say, as individuals. It can be difficult to properly convey the subtle nature of this truth.

     When healthy people look out at other people, what they see is another Being that is completely unique and separate from themselves.

     This is what being an individual is: It is existing as a completely unique Being unto yourself.

     What this naturally includes - there is no other possibility - is that as an individual, you will have your own unique, distinct preferences, ideals, feelings about things, likes and dislikes, interests, opinions and so forth.

     Since healthy people truly view other people as people - as individuals - in their minds, they naturally just include this understanding and accept it: “There is another Being that is completely unique, separate, and distinct from any other Beings. I wonder what makes that Being unique? What are his or her particular opinions, likes, dislikes, interests, and so forth that define that person as a completely unique, standalone being?”

     To view a person as an individual naturally and inherently involves accepting the differences that make that person an individual.

     Unhealthy people don’t view people as people - as individuals. Therefore they aren’t naturally inclined to accept the things that being an individual inherently includes.

     Unhealthy people instead unconsciously view themselves as sort of the only 'real' person in a movie where all of the other ‘people’ are just supporting characters. In a video game, all other people would be NPCs (Non-Person Characters). That is to say, not real people, just computer-generated fakes to populate the world for the 'real' player.

     Unhealthy people then view other people as only Suppliers or Deniers of their own needs and wants. “You’re either cooperating with my life or you’re getting in the way.”

     Let’s put it this way…

     How would you feel if your left hand suddenly started doing whatever it wanted, independent of your wishes?

     You wouldn’t like it, it would frustrate you terribly, and you would fight to regain control over it.

     Do you understand that unhealthy people don’t view you as a separate, unique, standalone person. They view you as an extension of themselves. They are the only real person in the entire world, so only their opinions, feelings and so forth matter. Even when they are going through the motions of doing something “nice for others”, they are not really doing it for others, as if they are able to perceive other people as people in certain circumstances. No, when I say they don’t view people as people, I mean this is the absolute truth, always.

     When they do something nice for others, they’re not doing it for others. They’re doing it for themselves.

     For example, let’s say my dad buys me a new fishing pole as a kid. While this may appear to be a completely selfless thing he’s doing for me, it’s not. He’s not doing it for me. He’s doing it because of how it makes him feel about HIMSELF. Remember, the only reason I exist at all is to serve as a sort of player in his world - for what I add or don’t add to his world. So him buying me a fishing pole is something he’s doing for himself - going through the motions of what he believes would appeal to an imaginary audience and bring him external value (in the form of what other people think).

     We are all just extensions of them, you see. So when you have a different opinion or preference than they do, this is like their own left hand rebelling and doing whatever it wants, independent of them. That is why it is maddening, and they fight to control it in order to bring their world back into its proper behavior.

     This is why I say unhealthy people only view everything in the world as Suppliers or Deniers of their own wants and needs. Anything is either cooperating with their wants and needs, or it is interfering with their wants and needs. Cooperation = good, interference = bad. There is no such thing, or room, in this formula for individuality.

     Dramatic, real-life examples that are natural results of not viewing people as people (viewing people as NPCs, or as only supporting characters to your story):

     -Killing a wife who divorces you

     -Jeffrey Dahmer

     -Rapists

     -thieves

     -kidnappers

     -child abuse

     -stabbing a total stranger on a New York City street in broad daylight

     -shooting a schoolroom full of children

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