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From a Last Symptom Follower (V.K-R.), 24 Dec. 2020, on Progress, Realizations

So it's been some time since I posted, particularly because my learning curve seems on the slow side. And one of the things I was having difficulty digesting was rage, and acceptance of the anger towards my abusers. I've bounced back and forth on various learnings which resonate with Brian's thoughts that people with Borderline Personality Disorder go to any extent necessary not to allow access to their genuine feelings and self, causing severe intimacy deficiency.

I was listening to this in The Last Symptom podcast Season 1: Episode 47- Special Broadcast: Love. I came to several learning points (though shaky) that I'm still having trouble coming to terms with.

(Learning point 1. )

Listening to the Podcast allowed me to connect the actions of my parents to exactly why I feel internal shame towards my feelings and self:

I took a hard realistic look at the aggressive Emotion "training" by my Malignant Narcissist father (Pedophilic disorder), and my mother with Borderline Personality Disorder. The full extent of their behavior was that:

Through their systematic actions and brainwashing to they trained me not to express or feel any feelings or negative emotions towards them as it "bothered" them. Control was used instead of healthy guidance.

It was from here this internal shame engine was developed in the first place. My anger was forcibly shoved down in my childhood, and my feelings being ignored/deflected up to this day.

It was very difficult realizing how it was directly connected to me directly feeling ashamed of my feelings and self. My inability to share my authentic self was a direct result of my parents wanting their way or else. The "my way or the highway". Attitude.


(Learning Point 2: )
Realization of Invalidation Procedures:

Almost like the movie Silence of the Lambs-it puts the lotion on its skin or then it gets the hose again. I realized that my father would not only invalidate my feelings but force me to never express them by using egosyntonic aggression, forced intimidation, threats and control.

On my mothers side- she refused to allow me to express negative emotions, her favorite line " Don't get upset" on broken record forced me to bottle up the hurt. She would even inappropriately threaten to call the police if I even showed a hint of anger. Later in life this would result in rage blow ups instead of appropriate expressions of anger. If that didn't work she would guilt and shame me by acting as if me having emotions was overreacting or "getting upset".


(Learning point 3 : )
I discovered the denial/blame train by the most toxic family members

When I showed anger at my father for his abuse it was met immediately with denial aggression, blame, and fear tactics. As if I was to blame, for my own abuse. Furthermore I was later called an abuser for simply mentioning it as it was, (Victim blaming) much as one would indicate the sky is blue, or the grass is green.

So Brian was right on all accounts on to hold back on bringing such to their attention, as without any sort of proper emotional health on my end, and my father's own refusal to accept responsibility, his response was complete ignorance and refusal to acknowledge his behavior.

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(Learning Point 4:)
I started understanding the difficulty of acceptance and holding family accountable:

I am coming to realize, as numerous compatriots of this page have also expressed an acceptance that accountability will not be coming from that end. I cut off contact with my father as it was only met with denial and attacks. It has weighed heavily on me since but I am also understanding it is not my responsibility to teach him or make him understand. That falls into his own circle of responsibilities. This includes the lifelong consequences of his behaviors and failure to take responsibility.

My mother on the other hand, I am pleased to say is responding to my assertion of boundaries, and I am glad because it is allowing us both growth. I am sad she has not pursued self work, but she is responding to my own. We are now able to talk about her own past which is a major step in a positive direction. She has also listened to me when I have told her I am responsible for myself and can do so without her worrying over me.


(Learning point 5: )
The removal of disillusionment for what love is versus my inaccurate perceptions of love is the most difficult to accept so far:

When I came to the 2nd half about love not being a feeling and that there are a set of automatics that are required to demonstrate love, I must admit I felt entirely devastated.

Devastated that no matter what I had believed, and that even one of my abusers was right to say, that I was completely delusional to believe anything I had until at ANY point was love. But how could I considering that fear and forced feeling suppression was the norm in my household?

When I learned love is not even a feeling. I was not exactly surprised at how often in the media we are told that it is. But it puzzled and depressed me to learn how I had thought strong feelings were equal to it.

Looking back my new knowledge made it even more strange having been told that I was going to "fall in love" with some artist as one of my abusers had stated. Later he admitted to me that he ("we" ) could not love. At the time I was like what is he talking about? How right he was and how very wrong and naive-- I -- was.

I had even until this point thought if I had confessed things I felt authentically at heart this would mean love. Once again I hadn't even had the concept right- which was both a blow to the ego but my consciousness and understanding about the very nature of love. That sad is defined as how we feel, but honesty is a quality.

Brian mentioned love is a quality of concrete requirements and automatically behaves in a certain way. And one simply cannot go through and check the boxes off as if we could tally it. That no, understanding the self and dealing with those internal hurts and anger must be reached and the level of internal peace must be met before love is even a possibility.

Knowing this it is very hard to show myself compassion, even knowing I am trying. I even feel shame and humiliation thinking, "how could I not know this". The fact it sounded so alien really made me feel frightened.

I am still not to the full understanding of this concept of love and it feels like such a long way off.


(Learning Point 6: )
Addressing feelings on a more regular basis has been a highlight of my progress, to understand feelings by practice, allows me insight into who I am, how and when I am feeling something:

I am starting to get to the point where I can start addressing feelings with other people, and internally. I still get emotional flashbacks of abusive situations, but am starting to be able to address these flashblacks as feelings instead of being immersed in them as internal dialogue. Situational flashbacks are terrible as there is literally nothing you can do, it's the I wish I had said this knowing what I know now conundrum.

Now in conversation with my mother when she says "don't get upset" I can now honestly tell her I do not appreciate it when she acts like that and it is not okay to tell me how to feel.

This happened on Christmas and we were also watching Man With a Plan, where I started to be able to recognize the positives in the parent's parenting. Instead of hostility they explained to their children that though they understood their children's feelings, and recognized them, that they still had the authority in the household to make the decisions for (the best interest of) their children. I was pleased to know I could grow with my boyfriend and explore these positives in healthy parental relationships.


(Learning point 7:)
Exercising boundaries allows me to separate my viewpoints from others viewpoints , and grow from my mistakes.

I am starting to be able to talk about things and recognize when my boyfriend tells me things along the lines of, "don't say that, it's not (some viewpoint) correct". My response is to tell him that I did not appreciate him correcting me on what I should say or think.

I told him that in order for me to grow and change it is necessary for me to say how I am feeling or what I'm thinking without others trying to edit them as I am saying them. In order for me to grow I must first be able to express myself as I think naturally, and if I make mistakes I can learn from them and grow.

After all, how can I share my authentic self if people are busy trying to control how I talk? That would be outside of their circle of rights and responsibilities.


(Learning Point 8:)
Learning about the difficulties faced by those in my immediate circle means putting my emotional unhealth into proper perspective in how it impacts others.

I must admit I was terrified to realize that my feelings for my partner did not demonstrate love for him, and realizing how painful that is for both of us, I was not only worried about him but concerned about him. I think this is some insight I have begun to develop.

Concern over my partner's well being as I cannot yet demonstrate authentic love and care towards him. I am more than willing to learn so I can, but am terrified looking over what sort of a relationship we had been living until this point (9+years).

I told him I will keep working on learning and that I am sorry I cannot essentially love him right now and hugged him. I have begun to do more things to show him that I care and am interested in taking responsibility. I now listen to his feed back when he talks about things that bother him and am learning how to demonstrate that I have heard what he has said and when I have thought about it and what I will do to change that behavior or am doing.

I am wondering how other couples, with husbands or girlfriend/boyfriends are working through this. I am grateful my partner is supporting this growth even when it is very challenging. He has told me that I am improving and is proud of me.
(Learning Point 8:) Understanding how this disorder impacts friendships.


The love segment elicited a major fearful response, and I think a lot of deep shame because I see friends on facebook say they love me and see me as authentic and I cannot be those things just yet.

I have also started to come to terms with stating opinions and am noticing massive fear and shame even when I feel what I am expressing is justified.

Immediately I feel shame and fear, wondering, do I leave behind people that differ in various realms of thinking such as politics and human rights?

I have started developing a metric realizing previous friends are not fitting into this and wondering what I should do.

A friend shared a meme that expressed perfectly someone who was authentically healthy and content with themselves. It sounds obtuse but one of Dave Chappelle's one liners that shows he does not have internal shame.

"Cause ___ 'em, that's why."

I liked that very much because I realized there are some situations where no matter what you do, you will not like someone or they will not like you. And that is fine. That is the essence of they are the weather to me and I am to them. And if they don't like something they are in their right to go elsewhere.

I realized I was so ashamed of my feelings that I was concerned I would be dismissed or even blocked by people. But a healthy person would be fine if others didn't read their opinions and that was on their plate not mine. A person without a shame of their feelings would not feel concerned over expressing their authentic ideas and feelings towards their circle of friends.


(Learning Point 9:) Learning to improvise as I make mistakes and when to apologize for inappropriate behavior

I still have a long way to go, but I am altering my behavior as I go. Incorporating mistakes. For example I got seriously fussy and out of line by being upset that some medicine went missing and went into blame mode. I thought about it and told my bf that I had acted poorly in such a scenario. When I first started I was very arrogant and had a far more difficult time expressing when I had made mistakes or acted childishly. There is still a fair amount of childishness to correct, but the anger outbursts have gotten to be where I express points in an irritated fashion. There is still a lot of shame versus guilt I must work out because I often forget to do it, and sometimes even when I say I'll throw shame away it feels like specific things won't budge that easily mentally.


(Learning Point 10:) Learning from others experiences and similar experiences has helped me come to terms with, appreciate the difficulty, and be able to put better perspective on the problems we face:

A big thankyou to the other members of this group:

I have been following along in the group and reading others stories, which have allowed me to practice new adjustments and understanding its okay to do cut offs from toxic family members.

Thank you everyone, for sharing your stories because it has given me a lot of insight into the acceptance required that many of us will not be able to have relationships with various family members.

That is one of the hardest things I have had to come to grips with:

That many of our family members don't care and don't want to understand. They are fine with their treatment of us. And it is important to realize we are not fine with it. It has been a devastating experiencing as a good portion of my family is toxically disordered and abusive. To me it means breaking away and starting out on my own, and that is as lonely at times as the initial abandonment.

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I have been spending time thinking about humility recently and where in my life I am doing well as well as not so well. I searched humility on here and found several posts on the subject, which I appreciated. @TSpitfire , your post from back in September resonated with me and that is an area I recognized I need to remain focused on.

I spent a lot of time studying humility within the Bible.
I found that the direct examples Jesus lived out a very high bar to achieve because I know I will always fall short of his example. But I enjoyed reading the stories of other people and how they, despite human nature, were able to overcome and what good things could exist due to their humility. So here are a few of the notes I wrote during the time I spent doing this deep dive.

  • Humility gives us space to let go of our ego and how forgiveness is really for ourselves. (Joseph after being sold into slavery by his own brothers)

  • Humility keeps us on the right side of recognizing the limits of our abilities ...

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S5 Ep 24 Forgiveness Outline
FORGIVENESS

“You need to just let it go and move on.”

     Have you ever heard somebody say that before?

     When I was beginning my own authentic recovery from Borderline Personality Disorder - something I used to live with unknowingly, and something that I authentically rid myself of completely - it used to drive me nuts when I would try expressing some of the tremendous injustices committed against me in my life, and people would say this to me: “Forget about it. Let it go.”

     Most people unhelpfully talk about this as “forgiveness”.

     I wish I could say that they improperly or even falsely talk about this as forgiveness, but unfortunately, for anybody hoping for real insight on this subject, it’s not that simple.

     Many people use the word “forgiveness” when what they really mean (unknowingly) is Acceptance. This is especially true in many religious contexts.

     It is not unusual for many of the words we use in everyday speech to carry several distinct connotations, each connotation unrelated to the other. Take for example the word ‘light’. What determines the meaning of this word? It is context.

     If I ask to help you carry your groceries and you tell me, “No thanks, these bags are light”, I understand immediately that you are not suggesting that they are emitting rays of illumination.

     Likewise, if I say that the picture of my television screen isn’t ‘light’ enough for some movie I’m watching, you immediately understand that I’m not talking about its weight, but rather how bright the picture is.

     In most cases with words that carry multiple connotations, the context makes things clear. However, every once in a while, particularly with anything related to emotional health, great misunderstandings and confusion occur when a really important word carries multiple connotations, and worse yet, when the various connotations are subtle in their differences.

     The reason for this is that people are already living with misunderstandings, or complete lack of understanding, and when you add on top of that words with multiple connotations, it is a recipe for disaster. It prevents people from seeing and understanding things clearly, and therefore advancing. It creates confusion and leads people to do things in ways that they believe are right, but that are not right.

     The average person means two distinct things when they speak of ‘forgiveness’:

     1. Letting go of resentment

     2. Allowing another person back into your good graces, that is to say, to consider a debt paid, or that you have received compensation.

     These two meanings: Letting go of resentment, and viewing yourself as compensated, are two entirely distinct meanings that do not in any way involve the same thing.

     Think about it real hard for a second: Does me simply not feeling resentment toward a person inevitably mean also allowing them into my life? Not at all. Does considering a debt paid inevitably involve also not resenting a person? Not at all.

     I can hope well for a person and not resent them while at the same time seeing that they should not be in my life.

     You do this all the time with puppies and stray kitty cats. Your kids beg you to adopt them and take them home, and you say, “Children, no. We just can’t take on the added responsibilities at this time.” Right?

     Because you don’t want to take the dog or cat into your life, is this proof that you resent the dog or cat? Absolutely not.

     Furthermore, the lady at the bank may resent me even after I pay off my car loan. My having paid off my debt does not also inevitably involve her feelings about me changing.

     At the beginning of this discussion I said that people unhelpfully apply both of these distinct meanings that we’ve discussed to the word “forgiveness” and that I can’t say they are doing this improperly, or falsely. This is because technically, both of these meanings are in fact legitimate meanings for the word “forgiveness”.

     However, just because both meanings, or connotations, are technically legitimate uses of the word forgiveness does not mean that it is in your, or anybody else’s best interests to continue using the word “forgiveness” in both ways. All this does is contribute to, and enforce, confusion and distorted understanding about life.

     What did we say the two completely-distinct, unrelated meanings, or connotations of the word Forgiveness are?

  1. Letting go of resentment
  2. Allowing another person back into your good graces, that is to say, to consider a debt paid.

     Letting go of resentment: Who is that one for? Is that something we do primarily for another person, or is that something we do primarily for ourselves?

     It’s something we primarily do for ourselves. It’s a favor we do for ourselves so as to not lose peace, or to not continue losing peace.

     What does letting go of resentment involve? It involves our thoughts and feelings - in that order.

     Why in that order? It has to occur in that order because nobody has a Resentment Switch inside of themselves that they can just flip up or down to turn resentment on and off. Nobody has direct control over his or her feelings. Choosing what we feel isn’t something human beings are able to do, since feelings are something we experience as human beings, not something we do. (This is why expressions such as “don’t be mad…” are so stupid and destructive.)

     But every feeling we experience is preceded by thoughts - our feelings are born directly from our thoughts - and we do have full control over not only what we continue thinking about, but also how we continue thinking about a thing.

     So letting go of resentment involves recognizing what thoughts we live with that are giving birth to resentment, and then choosing:

  1. To stop allowing ourselves to think certain things altogether
  2. To think about some other things more and other things less
  3. To think about the same things, but to choose to think about them in a different way.

     Honestly, I can’t stress this enough: Nothing has become more practically useful or powerful in my life than the realization that the solution to almost every problem is how I myself am choosing to think about it.

     When I’m having a “bad day”, the first thing I do is look at what my thoughts are doing to understand why. If I see that my mind is hanging onto a bunch of negative thoughts and that’s why I am interpreting my day in such a negative way, I simply choose different things to think about, or I think about the same things but in a different way, and my day gets better.

     If everybody around me seems to be annoying and troublesome on a certain day, I stop and take a look at my thoughts. Then I usually realize that it is not that the people around me are being more troublesome or annoying than usual, but that instead it is my own negative thinking that is making it seem that way, which in turn is making me feel negatively. So I choose to think about different things, or to think about the same things in a different way, and suddenly people don’t seem so annoying anymore.

     I have two new puppies. Puppies chew up and destroy everything. They get into places they aren’t supposed to be, they get ahold of things they’re not supposed to have. When I realize I am beginning to get frustrated at the destruction they cause, the first thing I do is check the sorts of thoughts I have been allowing to play in the background of my mind. I then choose to think about things differently. Suddenly the destruction my pups create isn’t frustrating anymore, instead it becomes comical, endearing and precious.

     If this thought hasn’t occurred to you, it should: How did I cure myself of Borderline Personality Disorder? If you strip what I did down the bare bones, what is it that I did that took me from somebody completely enslaved to that emotional disorder to somebody completely free of it? In the simplest terms possible, how did I do it?

     I identified thoughts that were incorrect, and I corrected them. In other words, I began thinking differently.

     That’s all there was to it, honestly. Granted, we’re talking about something that is much easier to say than do, but nevertheless, that is the nature of the cure to all emotional disorders, including Borderline Personality Disorder: Just thinking different.

     In fact, I’d bet you a nickel that simply thinking different is the primary factor between a baseball team playing poorly one year and going to the World Series the very next year. Just look at the Cincinnati Reds right now. You can’t get tickets to their games. Why not? I didn’t have any trouble getting tickets last year.

     The reason is this: They thought different going into this season. Then they started playing well. When they started playing well, they started believing in themselves. Because they started believing in themselves and playing well, they’ve continued believing in themselves and playing well. Their thinkingmore optimistically actually makes them behave more optimistically and to desire playing harder.

     And what about nobody wanting to attend games last year? Well, all of those people’s thinking has changed, too, hasn’t it. Suddenly they all want to be at the games. They want to be able to say they were there. They anticipate seeing something wonderful happen. Because the team is thinking different, the thousands or even millions of fans are thinking different. Because the team and the fans are thinking different, all of baseball is thinking about them differently. 

     Now I do have to stress that this type of thinking differently is not the type of thinking differently that is going to cure anybody of an emotional disorder. No, you can’t just think optimistically and cure yourself of fundamentally false and unhealthy thinking. To do that, one has to identify what they have been educated incorrectly about and correct those completely false understandings of things.

     One can’t cure fundamentally flawed notions merely by thinking more optimistically. For example, if I live with the terribly-destructive belief that human value depends on what other people think of us, my choosing to think more optimistically, while never rooting out that false belief and changing it, is not going to fix that false belief, nor is it going to make the natural destructive consequences of living with that false belief magically go away. No, I have to identify false thinking within myself and correct that thinking - replace it with thinking that is better reflective of truth.

     Still, at the end of the day, to say it as simply as possible, it comes down to thinking differently; thinking differently because you see how your previous thinking was flawed, so you adopt a better understanding, and you move on thinking in new, more accurate, healthier ways.

     How about ‘Forgiveness’ in the sense of allowing another person back into our good graces, or considering a debt that they owe us as paid? Is that something we do for others, or is it something we do for ourselves?

     Allowing another person back into our good graces is something we primarily do, not for ourselves, but for the other person. It’s something we extend to them.

     The reason I talk about it as considering a debt paid is because that is what it really involves.

     Relationships are contracts. Have you ever thought about it that way? Any type of relationship you get into is a contract that you and another person are agreeing to, and entering into.

     Just last week I was in a park in the big city. There was a guy sitting on a park bench. The moment I decided to sit down and start a conversation with that feller, I was offering to enter into an agreement with him. The moment he chose to remain seated and engage with me in the conversation, he accepted entering into that agreement himself.

     What were the unspoken obligations and responsibilities that we were both agreeing to at that point? To share of ourselves, to remain friendly and respectful. If either one of us had failed in our small obligations and responsibilities in that scenario, there would have been consequences. A best-case scenario might have been one of us excusing ourselves and walking away. A worst-case scenario might have been a fist fight.

     But what about afterwards?

     See, the failure to live up to the obligations and responsibilities of that very simple relationship would have created a vacuum, or negative space. One of us would forever be walking around afterwards indebted to the other unless the offender - whether that’s him or me - put things right.

     Failing in an obligation or a responsibility creates a vacuum, or a negative space. What the person responsible for a thing was supposed to provide there, they never provided. Therefore it is left vacant. That vacuum or negative space continues to exist until it gets filled. How does it get filled? By the offender paying their debt, making up for their failure, in the form of consequences and conditions, which replaces, or fills in for, the responsibility they originally failed to live up to.

     Remember that guy on the park bench I was just telling you about? Fortunately we both lived up to the contract, or agreement, that we entered into with each other that day. We’ve since entered into additional contracts. He came to my house the very next day to see my last remaining puppy from my recent litter of puppies, and he has agreed to adopt her. Drove almost two hours south that morning to my house. His name is Dave. He has a 5-year-old daughter and they’re all excited about welcoming a new dog into their lives. But more than that, he and I have a lot in common and we’re starting to become friends. We’re making plans to get together for a barbecue soon.

     Anybody we allow into our lives, and that chooses to be in our lives themselves, as well as allow us into their lives in return, accepts certain unspoken obligations and responsibilities.

     Just like when I enter into a relationship with a bank, this gives birth to obligations and responsibilities that I am agreeing to take on. If I fail to live up to any of my obligations or responsibilities, that creates a vacuum, or a negative space, doesn’t it.

     For example, if I take out a loan, and one month I miss the payment on that loan, the payment that was supposed to be made was never made. Therefore there is a big empty space, negative space, or vacuum there. Until I fill in that empty space and turn it from a negative into a positive, things can’t be right between me and the bank.

     This creates a situation where the offender is now indebted to us. They owe us the debt of taking this situation that is out of harmony and balance, and putting things right so that everything comes back into balance. This is why we refer to situations like this as “putting things right”.

     As we already illustrated in the example of the puppies, I can let go of my resentment for somebody who has wronged me in a serious way while at the same time not embracing them back into my good graces. In other words, I may be able to let go of any feelings of resentment and not hate that person or hold any grudges - but at the same time I may recognize that they have not met certain conditions for me to healthfully be able to have interactions with them, and therefore I keep them out of my life.

     In a religious sense, half of the time that the Bible uses the term ‘forgiveness’, it is in reality talking about Acceptance, as in letting go of resentment - but NOT ‘forgiveness’ in the sense of letting people off the hook for things they are neither sensitive or remorseful about.

     True forgiveness, in the strict sense, is something for others - it is not something for ourselves. It is us telling others that they are free of any requirements whatsoever to make compensation to us for anything.

     Acceptance on the other hand is letting go of resentment. We look at a great injustice we have suffered, and we simply accept that things happened the way they happened, and they can never be undone. We let go of any hate or frustration we might be holding onto, and we move on in our lives. It is this aspect of emotional health that a majority of people mistakenly think of as ‘forgiveness’. This is not forgiveness. It is Acceptance. Acceptance is something we do for OUR OWN SELVES. It is not something we extend to others.

     For all of you hearing this, I hope you will spend a lot of time chewing over what I have just shared. The error in thinking around forgiveness - even among very, very smart and Godly people - comes down to a common misunderstanding of the way words can carry multiple, completely unrelated connotations. Most of the time this doesn’t create confusion. In the case of emotional health, where many things hinge on a very precise understanding of very subtle concepts, it creates great confusion.

     So although it is not technically incorrect to refer to letting go of resentment as ‘forgiveness’, I have completely sworn off using the word ‘forgiveness’ in such a way because as you can see, using it with that connotation only leads to great, unecessary  confusion.

     In what type of circumstances can you not healthily forgive another person - that is to say, allow them back into your good graces, or consider their debt paid - until the offender has suffered consequences, and the offender has met specific conditions?

  1. Anytime there is abuse.
  2. Anytime somebody has failed to look at you, or look at those you are responsible for, as a person and treat you, or them, as a person. (Gives birth to #1.)
  3. Anytime somebody flagrantly ignores or disregards any of the laws of emotional health.
  4. Anytime somebody who is committed to God and knows better has flagrantly broken one of God’s laws without remorse.
  5. Anytime somebody fails to live up to a solemn vow, commitment, or responsibility.

     Why do I say that it is not healthy to ‘Forgive’ a person in the sense of letting them back into your good graces, or viewing them as owing you no compensation, in these sorts of circumstances until they have suffered consequences and also have met conditions?

     Because to extend ‘forgiveness’ in these circumstances is to Enable emotional unhealth in the world.

     In addition to The Law of Individual Inherent Rights Responsibility & Authority that we always talk about, there is another Law of Emotional Health that is every bit as important to know about and live harmoniously with. I call it The Law of Enabling, which has always existed and which we have described and talked about in the past, I’ve just never given it a name until now.

     It says that you are always supporting (or enabling) something. But you can only be healthy yourself as long as you are not supporting (enabling, participating in, contributing to) any aspect of emotional unhealth in life.

     To give you an example, if my brother were to come to me and say that he wants to rob a bank tomorrow, anything I do to contribute to his ability to rob the bank is me participating in the act of the bank robbery, even if it is something as small as my wishing him well in his endeavor.

     I cannot wish him well in an endeavor that is harmful to himself and to the world, and that can only lead to pain, and at the same time consider myself a non-contributor to his pain and any resulting harm. Therefore, the only other option available to me in this scenario is to *only* support, or enable, things that contribute to his *inability* to carry out the bank robbery.

     Do you see that I am still supporting him, I’m simply supporting him in a way that is good for him rather than in a way that is bad for him.

     Remember that staying out of people’s business (recognizing that only they have the right to choose how to live their own lives) is not the same as *assisting* them to live their lives however they want, such as offering emotional support to allow them to continue in ways that are inherently destructive.

     You must be very careful and discerning that your acceptance of unhealthy people’s right to live however they want does not cross the forbidden boundary where you are not only accepting of their right to make choices, but actually *contributing* to their unhealthy choices, to their unhealthy thinking, to their distorted thinking, to their outright false thinking, and so forth.

     Once you become a contributor, or participant in it, you then share in the emotional unhealth and the negative effects that naturally accompany it. Why? Because you are contributing to somebody else’s ultimate harm and unhappiness. Your doing that is evidence of your own unhealthy thinking and attitudes allowing you to think and act in such a way, otherwise you wouldn’t be involved in it. Unhealthy thinking and unhealthy attitudes *only* lead to disorder and unhappiness, they cannot lead to emotional health and peace.

     The Law of Enabling: Remember, we are always supporting others. We are always supporting something. We are never *not* supporting something. The teeter-totter, the trick, is to only support the RIGHT thing - the HEALTHY things - and to never be a participant, or contributor, in unhealthy things.

     I wish all people well in life. I do not wish them well in decisions and choices and behaviors that I know to be inherently to their harm. Instead, I hope they will be allowed to suffer the full negative consequences of those things, which has the potential to benefit them ultimately and help them self correct. This is exactly the course my own life took and it is what allows me to be here talking about these things today.

 

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Happiness is a Natural State
Show outline for The Last Symptom podcast S5 Ep 15

Happiness is not something you have to create. Rather, it’s something that is always trying to occur naturally. But for unhealthy people it is being blocked.

 

Like Empathy. It’s not something you do. It’s something you experience naturally. If you’re not experiencing it, the only reason this can be is that there is an obstruction.

 

Water hose. Water pipes. Water faucet. WiFi connection.

 

Do you know how your water faucet works? When you turn the knob, does the faucet cause the water to flow? No! The water faucet does not ‘cause’ water to flow. The water is already trying to flow on its own.

 

What the water faucet in your house does is actually stop it from flowing.

 

When you turn the handle on your sink, what you are literally doing is putting an end to obstructing the flow of water that is already trying to occur naturally.

 

This is the truth for happiness, contentment, empathy, love, and all of these good qualities and states. It’s not a matter of making them happen - that is an unhelpful perspective to have about what is actually occurring. It is more helpful to think of them like the water that wants to come out of your faucet - they are trying to flow, but something you are doing is obstructing them from flowing.

 

Recovery involves learning about the obstructions preventing you from experiencing these things and then clearing out any obstructions from those pipes.

 

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Question: Why do people become more bitter as they get older? Did they make bad choices or does life just get harder?

 

Last Symptom Answer: A lot of disillusionment happens over the years, a lot of necessary readjustments in perspective between what you assume about life and the reality. Then acceptance sets in, and with that, contentment starts to return.

 

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John Muir, an 'uneducated' man

 

From Wikipedia:

 

Pursuit of his love of science, especially geology, often occupied his free time. Muir soon became convinced that glaciers had sculpted many of the features of the Yosemite Valley and surrounding area.

 

This notion was in strong contradiction to the accepted contemporary theory, promulgated by Josiah Whitney (head of the California Geological Survey), which attributed the formation of the valley to a catastrophic earthquake.

 

As Muir's ideas spread, Whitney tried to discredit Muir by branding him as an amateur. But Louis Agassiz, the premier geologist of the day, saw merit in Muir's ideas and lauded him as "the first man I have ever found who has any adequate conception of glacial action".[35] In 1871, Muir discovered an active alpine glacier below Merced Peak, which helped his theories gain acceptance.

 

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The only time dad asked what I was thinking, doing, singing, was to find fault with it - to get me into trouble, to shame me, to find something wrong with it. (The time on the porch I was singing and he ‘caught’ me, and asked what I was singing. I couldn’t bring myself to tell him, because I didn’t know how he had in mind to use it against me or to belittle me.)

 

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Question: So the topic I was thinking of for you to talk about was Hoarding. I could be wrong, but I have seen it with a few people with personality disorders of some sort.

Last Symptom Answer: Any and all compulsive behaviors have the same underlying causes. If not hoarding, it might be sex addiction, any addiction, alcoholism, OCD, cutting, so forth. Like plugging the hole in a dam that has built up too much water pressure behind it: The pressure is still there, the water will simply search out other weak spots from which to escape.

 

All compulsive behaviors are a sign that somebody is dealing with intense, unconscious, unrecognized inner 'pressure', or stress factors. The compulsive behavior is water that has broken forth from a weak spot in the 'dam', so to speak.  

Compulsive behaviors are merely an unconscious or subconscious coping mechanism for some underlying emotional discomfort. Dying hair a different color every month, getting a new pet all the time, compulsive buying/spending, constantly moving, settling down but then getting restless, are all signs of this. Inner peace is not there. Something deep down is upsetting them. That 'something else' can always ultimately be traced back to the person living with an inappropriate understanding, or attitude, about the nature of worth. 

 

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Facts plus their implications. Spending time drawing out implications rather than simply taking a thing at face value and moving on.

 

Example: You unconsciously view your feelings as no different than having taken an action. Furthermore, you believe feelings can be categorized as being good or bad, right or wrong.

 

You might have the realization that these things are a reality about yourself that you live with, but now you have to spend a long time thinking about the broader implications of what this means. What effects has this had on every aspect of your life? How have these underlying beliefs improperly informed other perspectives you live with, and what have been the unhealthy results?

 

Example: You don’t view human value as an inherent part of being a person.

 

Example: Fear of abandonment is your child view of the world, but you’re no longer a child or dependent on others.

 

Example: Happiness is a natural state.

 

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OUTLINE: The Last Symptom podcast S5 Ep 2
Until I Found You

You may have already seen or listened to this episode of The Last Symptom podcast (S5 Ep 2), but I wanted to share the outline with you that I worked from. Some of you mind find value in it. 

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      Have you noticed that unhealthy families are governed by unwritten rules that discourage and punish people who show any individuality? Why? (From our Last Symptom group on Locals.)

     Unhealthy people don’t view other people as people - that is to say, as individuals. It can be difficult to properly convey the subtle nature of this truth.

     When healthy people look out at other people, what they see is another Being that is completely unique and separate from themselves.

     This is what being an individual is: It is existing as a completely unique Being unto yourself.

     What this naturally includes - there is no other possibility - is that as an individual, you will have your own unique, distinct preferences, ideals, feelings about things, likes and dislikes, interests, opinions and so forth.

     Since healthy people truly view other people as people - as individuals - in their minds, they naturally just include this understanding and accept it: “There is another Being that is completely unique, separate, and distinct from any other Beings. I wonder what makes that Being unique? What are his or her particular opinions, likes, dislikes, interests, and so forth that define that person as a completely unique, standalone being?”

     To view a person as an individual naturally and inherently involves accepting the differences that make that person an individual.

     Unhealthy people don’t view people as people - as individuals. Therefore they aren’t naturally inclined to accept the things that being an individual inherently includes.

     Unhealthy people instead unconsciously view themselves as sort of the only 'real' person in a movie where all of the other ‘people’ are just supporting characters. In a video game, all other people would be NPCs (Non-Person Characters). That is to say, not real people, just computer-generated fakes to populate the world for the 'real' player.

     Unhealthy people then view other people as only Suppliers or Deniers of their own needs and wants. “You’re either cooperating with my life or you’re getting in the way.”

     Let’s put it this way…

     How would you feel if your left hand suddenly started doing whatever it wanted, independent of your wishes?

     You wouldn’t like it, it would frustrate you terribly, and you would fight to regain control over it.

     Do you understand that unhealthy people don’t view you as a separate, unique, standalone person. They view you as an extension of themselves. They are the only real person in the entire world, so only their opinions, feelings and so forth matter. Even when they are going through the motions of doing something “nice for others”, they are not really doing it for others, as if they are able to perceive other people as people in certain circumstances. No, when I say they don’t view people as people, I mean this is the absolute truth, always.

     When they do something nice for others, they’re not doing it for others. They’re doing it for themselves.

     For example, let’s say my dad buys me a new fishing pole as a kid. While this may appear to be a completely selfless thing he’s doing for me, it’s not. He’s not doing it for me. He’s doing it because of how it makes him feel about HIMSELF. Remember, the only reason I exist at all is to serve as a sort of player in his world - for what I add or don’t add to his world. So him buying me a fishing pole is something he’s doing for himself - going through the motions of what he believes would appeal to an imaginary audience and bring him external value (in the form of what other people think).

     We are all just extensions of them, you see. So when you have a different opinion or preference than they do, this is like their own left hand rebelling and doing whatever it wants, independent of them. That is why it is maddening, and they fight to control it in order to bring their world back into its proper behavior.

     This is why I say unhealthy people only view everything in the world as Suppliers or Deniers of their own wants and needs. Anything is either cooperating with their wants and needs, or it is interfering with their wants and needs. Cooperation = good, interference = bad. There is no such thing, or room, in this formula for individuality.

     Dramatic, real-life examples that are natural results of not viewing people as people (viewing people as NPCs, or as only supporting characters to your story):

     -Killing a wife who divorces you

     -Jeffrey Dahmer

     -Rapists

     -thieves

     -kidnappers

     -child abuse

     -stabbing a total stranger on a New York City street in broad daylight

     -shooting a schoolroom full of children

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